Comments on: Moore’s Law http://www.simpleprop.com/2009/05/22/moores-law/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:16:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: monkey http://www.simpleprop.com/2009/05/22/moores-law/comment-page-1/#comment-20097 monkey Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:29:11 +0000 http://www.simpleprop.com/?p=891#comment-20097 Oh, yeah -- a solid UI makes all the difference in the world. This was (I think) the principle behind AOL. For all its suckage, it *did* get millions of people using email and the world wide web (or some weird mutation thereof). Microsoft is a great example: they took something that few people used (DOS) and turned it into something almost anybody could use (Win95) and then turned it right back into something almost nobody could use (Vista). All things equal, the better UI wins. (by the way, great old webpage, and that's the best mangling of "you can lead a horse" I've ever heard...) I think the older-school BBS-style systems *do* fall into those categories. Heck, you could do this stuff on the old shared-user systems of the 60s. The difference is accessibility and ease of use. It's gone from a few experts sitting at terminals in a single university building to every idiot tweeting from the backcountry wilderness. People weren't doing these things 5 years ago, but that doesn't mean they couldn't -- just not in their present form. (Similarly, communicating by cell phone isn't a new idea -- it's been around for 100 years. It's just that A. G. Bell had a hard-wired analog connection instead of an RF digital one.) Oh, yeah — a solid UI makes all the difference in the world. This was (I think) the principle behind AOL. For all its suckage, it *did* get millions of people using email and the world wide web (or some weird mutation thereof). Microsoft is a great example: they took something that few people used (DOS) and turned it into something almost anybody could use (Win95) and then turned it right back into something almost nobody could use (Vista). All things equal, the better UI wins.

(by the way, great old webpage, and that’s the best mangling of “you can lead a horse” I’ve ever heard…)

I think the older-school BBS-style systems *do* fall into those categories. Heck, you could do this stuff on the old shared-user systems of the 60s. The difference is accessibility and ease of use. It’s gone from a few experts sitting at terminals in a single university building to every idiot tweeting from the backcountry wilderness. People weren’t doing these things 5 years ago, but that doesn’t mean they couldn’t — just not in their present form.

(Similarly, communicating by cell phone isn’t a new idea — it’s been around for 100 years. It’s just that A. G. Bell had a hard-wired analog connection instead of an RF digital one.)

]]> By: alex http://www.simpleprop.com/2009/05/22/moores-law/comment-page-1/#comment-20086 alex Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:57:41 +0000 http://www.simpleprop.com/?p=891#comment-20086 I think if you look at Facebook as a one-stop communications hub that it's pretty new (and Google clearly <a HREF="http://wave.google.com/help/wave/about.html" rel="nofollow">wants a piece</A> of that). For blogs, I'm more narrowly defining them as either personal journals, or a site like Deadspin - with at least daily if not a LOT of daily updates. I don't think either a BBS or a personal webpage falls into that category, and thus the phenomenon is new. (Although I will grant you that 'easier and flashier user interfaces' does almost cover it. Also note that I personally never used the word 'new' until this comment - I simply said that people weren't doing these things 5 years ago.) :) I think if you look at Facebook as a one-stop communications hub that it’s pretty new (and Google clearly wants a piece of that). For blogs, I’m more narrowly defining them as either personal journals, or a site like Deadspin – with at least daily if not a LOT of daily updates. I don’t think either a BBS or a personal webpage falls into that category, and thus the phenomenon is new. (Although I will grant you that ‘easier and flashier user interfaces’ does almost cover it. Also note that I personally never used the word ‘new’ until this comment – I simply said that people weren’t doing these things 5 years ago.) :)

]]> By: wadE http://www.simpleprop.com/2009/05/22/moores-law/comment-page-1/#comment-19603 wadE Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:33:38 +0000 http://www.simpleprop.com/?p=891#comment-19603 "it's much easier to make money popularizing somebody else's idea" ... cough... Bill Gates... cough... anyway, it's a fair point you make, as I was "blogging" in 1994... (damn, web.archive.org only goes back to 1997 for stolaf.edu -- http://web.archive.org/web/19970606215551/http://www.stolaf.edu/people/vanhouse/index.html). on the other hand, you can't underestimate the value of a solid UI. you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink unless you make it so easy that his mom can upload pictures to facebook from her phone... or something like that... “it’s much easier to make money popularizing somebody else’s idea” … cough… Bill Gates… cough…
anyway, it’s a fair point you make, as I was “blogging” in 1994… (damn, web.archive.org only goes back to 1997 for stolaf.edu — http://web.archive.org/web/19970606215551/http://www.stolaf.edu/people/vanhouse/index.html).
on the other hand, you can’t underestimate the value of a solid UI. you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink unless you make it so easy that his mom can upload pictures to facebook from her phone… or something like that…

]]> By: monkey http://www.simpleprop.com/2009/05/22/moores-law/comment-page-1/#comment-19504 monkey Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:38:52 +0000 http://www.simpleprop.com/?p=891#comment-19504 Alright, I'll give you the Wii and Flikr (i.e. good inexpensive digital cameras), but Facebook and blogging have been around for 20 years -- now they've just got easier and flashier user interfaces. I guess I fall soundly into your asterisked case above in that I was on BBSs 20 years ago on my friend's basement computer and now hold a PhD in Mathematics, but still... I'm a stickler for calling something "new" when it isn't. So to me, the fascinating question is "what old technology will make it big in the next three years" 'cuz it's much easier to make money popularizing somebody else's idea (i.e. facebook) than it is to come up with radically new technology that either nobody knew they needed (cell phone) or works far better than anybody else's (google PageRank) . Alright, I’ll give you the Wii and Flikr (i.e. good inexpensive digital cameras), but Facebook and blogging have been around for 20 years — now they’ve just got easier and flashier user interfaces. I guess I fall soundly into your asterisked case above in that I was on BBSs 20 years ago on my friend’s basement computer and now hold a PhD in Mathematics, but still… I’m a stickler for calling something “new” when it isn’t. So to me, the fascinating question is “what old technology will make it big in the next three years” ‘cuz it’s much easier to make money popularizing somebody else’s idea (i.e. facebook) than it is to come up with radically new technology that either nobody knew they needed (cell phone) or works far better than anybody else’s (google PageRank) .

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