Comments on: Second Amendment http://www.simpleprop.com/2007/04/18/second-amendment/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:16:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: monkey http://www.simpleprop.com/2007/04/18/second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-1817 monkey Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:12:14 +0000 http://www.simpleprop.com/2007/04/18/second-amendment/#comment-1817 Round-up of <a HREF='http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,477686,00.html' rel="nofollow">European newspaper editorials.</A> Interesting to note that they refer *33* dead (32+1). Round-up of European newspaper editorials.
Interesting to note that they refer *33* dead (32+1).

]]> By: monkey http://www.simpleprop.com/2007/04/18/second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-1816 monkey Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:01:50 +0000 http://www.simpleprop.com/2007/04/18/second-amendment/#comment-1816 "Instead of a debate about guns, America is now having a debate about campus security." (from the same) “Instead of a debate about guns, America is now having a debate about campus security.” (from the same)

]]> By: alex http://www.simpleprop.com/2007/04/18/second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-1814 alex Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:46:16 +0000 http://www.simpleprop.com/2007/04/18/second-amendment/#comment-1814 http://www.economist.com/opinion/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=9040170 "Since the killing of John Kennedy in 1963, more Americans have died by American gunfire than perished on foreign battlefields in the whole of the 20th century. In 2005 more than 400 children were murdered with guns." http://www.economist.com/opinion/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=9040170
“Since the killing of John Kennedy in 1963, more Americans have died by American gunfire than perished on foreign battlefields in the whole of the 20th century. In 2005 more than 400 children were murdered with guns.”

]]> By: monkey http://www.simpleprop.com/2007/04/18/second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-1790 monkey Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:45:18 +0000 http://www.simpleprop.com/2007/04/18/second-amendment/#comment-1790 There are also cougars out there and they want to kill me! Don't *you* understand that?! “either you agree that we (The U.S.) are God’s people and can do no wrong, or you’re ok with terrorists killing people” Al, that sounds like the radical militant (not really) Islamist position -- just flip us & them... We have met the enemy and he is us. There are also cougars out there and they want to kill me! Don’t *you* understand that?!

“either you agree that we (The U.S.) are God’s people and can do no wrong, or you’re ok with terrorists killing people”
Al, that sounds like the radical militant (not really) Islamist position — just flip us & them… We have met the enemy and he is us.

]]> By: alex http://www.simpleprop.com/2007/04/18/second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-1787 alex Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:00:28 +0000 http://www.simpleprop.com/2007/04/18/second-amendment/#comment-1787 Monkey, there are terrorists out there, and they want to kill you! Why don't you understand that?! (Basically the Republican/Conservative/Whatever discourse boils down to "either you agree that we (The U.S.) are God's people and can do no wrong, or you're ok with terrorists killing people". It's riddled with logical holes, but sounds powerful on TV for people with short attention spans and a bias. Monkey, there are terrorists out there, and they want to kill you! Why don’t you understand that?!
(Basically the Republican/Conservative/Whatever discourse boils down to “either you agree that we (The U.S.) are God’s people and can do no wrong, or you’re ok with terrorists killing people”. It’s riddled with logical holes, but sounds powerful on TV for people with short attention spans and a bias.

]]> By: monkey http://www.simpleprop.com/2007/04/18/second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-1776 monkey Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:10:28 +0000 http://www.simpleprop.com/2007/04/18/second-amendment/#comment-1776 Whenever I start thinking about intelligent ways of preventing "depressed/deranged person buys gun, shoots people" I quickly A) get depressed (neither deranged nor gun-toting) and B) get stuck on just how systematic the problem is. It's so ingrained in vast segments of the population that it would require a completely fresh start to remove. Not removing the 2nd amendment, but removing the attitudes that generate the rabid defense of it. What really gets going are the utterly illogical arguments, and the anachronism of the first two sentence clauses of the 2nd amendment. Hunting: fine, especially for food and trying to restore human-disrupted ecological balances (bring back the wolves!). Handguns, uh, fun to shoot but otherwise... can't see any reason. Regulation and permitting process: ludicrously broken and idiotic. Change in the debate and outcome seems exceedingly unlikely, especially in the debate. What I wouldn't give for a president, body of advisors and elected officials, and public that can have an indoor-voice discussion acknowledging the shades of gray at issue rather than scream about black & white. Where have you gone Public Discourse? A nation turns its lonely eyes to you. Woo woo woo. Whenever I start thinking about intelligent ways of preventing “depressed/deranged person buys gun, shoots people” I quickly A) get depressed (neither deranged nor gun-toting) and B) get stuck on just how systematic the problem is. It’s so ingrained in vast segments of the population that it would require a completely fresh start to remove. Not removing the 2nd amendment, but removing the attitudes that generate the rabid defense of it. What really gets going are the utterly illogical arguments, and the anachronism of the first two sentence clauses of the 2nd amendment.

Hunting: fine, especially for food and trying to restore human-disrupted ecological balances (bring back the wolves!). Handguns, uh, fun to shoot but otherwise… can’t see any reason. Regulation and permitting process: ludicrously broken and idiotic.

Change in the debate and outcome seems exceedingly unlikely, especially in the debate. What I wouldn’t give for a president, body of advisors and elected officials, and public that can have an indoor-voice discussion acknowledging the shades of gray at issue rather than scream about black & white. Where have you gone Public Discourse? A nation turns its lonely eyes to you. Woo woo woo.

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